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    Default Prometheus

    se vi dico che un film è bello probabilmente direte vabbè a torok piacciono quasi tutti i film pew pew d'azione hollywoodiani al massimo lo aggiungerò alla lista di cinemapanettone da scaricare.
    MA.
    dovete sapere che io vidi il primo Alien quando ancora avevo 11 anni, forse anche meno, alle medie ne parlavo talmente tanto che i miei compagni mi regalarono la quadrilogia di Alien rimasterizzata e con 72h di contenuti speciali, devo averne visti più o meno la metà, ne ero talmente infatuato che Ripley divenne la mia eroina (si in tutti i sensi hueheu)
    la quadrilogia si commenta da sola, il primo libro è fantastico, immaginate la mia reazione quando seppi di P R O M E T H E U S




    finalmente dopo essermi sorbito 12 mesi di pubblicità virale, essermi studiato la timeline della Weyland Industries e imparato a memoria il video dell'azienda e trollato sui forum, (dopo aver sofferto come un cane una volta che ho scoperto che in italia sarebbe uscito ben 4 CAZZO di mesi dopo) finalmente ho visto il film.



    e vorrei dire.

    BRUTTI CRITICI DI MERDA MA ANDATE A MORIRE
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/
    7.5/10
    io gli darei un cazzo DI 9/10

    per gli appassionati della saga o fanboy come il sottoscritto il film non è bello, è ORO CHE COLA in un cazzo di pozzo senza fondo per la vostra mente, vi aprirà una VAGONATA di possibili svolgimenti di trama, una vagonata di idee su cosa che cazzo succederà e sul perchè è successo in un modo anzichè in un altro...
    il film rivela un paio di cose e ti lascia con 110 DOMANDE, ma non temete

    PROMETHEUS 2 è GIA IN SVILUPPO
    http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/ (non apritelo se non avete ancora visto l'1, magari vi spoilerate qualcosa)


    in definitiva il film che serviva per ridare agli amanti della serie nuovo materiale per stuzzicarsi e arraparsi, certo dei buchi di trama ci sono però spero di riempire magari leggendo sui forum, il film è VOLUTAMENTE dai confini labili e misterioso su molti aspetti per farci violentare la nostra mente dall'immaginazione... io ora devo correre a riguardare alien 1 perchè ho un dubbio che se è fondato e trovo le prove sarebbe la RIVELAZIONE totale...

    se qualcuno di voi lo guarda e pensa di condividere un mio stesso presagio possiamo magari anche discuterne

    p.s. possibile spoiler! io son dell'idea che quando l'umanità recupererà la scatola nera dell'astronave deciderà di fondare i Colonial marines così come li conosciamo cioè l'equipaggio della nave è formato da rincoglioniti & bigotti lol.. in quella che è la più grande missione dell'umanità, cioè neanche il kebabbaro sotto casa mia assumerebbe gente così, sicuramente la più grande pecca del film, l'unica dai il capitano Negro è just lol


    UBER SPOILERS & UNANSWERED QUESTIONS (Most Logic Speculations & Interviews with Ridley Scott)


    -Origin of the ship on LV-426 (questa frase serve solo per farvi capire che nel primo film di alien siamo su un pianeta diverso da quello di prometheus, leggete tutto il resto per avere più informazioni)

    -The Engineers are masters of biotechnology, which was proven to wipe out the entire Engineer base on LV-223,
    leaving a single Engineer to rest in hypersleep. All other Engineers on the planet were massacred under unknown circumstances by their creations.




    -Due to the actions of the android David, the Last Engineer was awoken and was hostile to the humans, and Elizabeth Shaw found out that the Engineer Base had planned on going to Earth and wiping out humanity for over 2000 years,
    but a pandemic erupted on LV-223, claiming the lives of all but one Engineer.
    The Engineer was able to understand David but rather than respond with words,
    he tore David's head off and killed all humans but Shaw as she managed to get away. He then attempted to pilot the ship and head for earth but was stopped by the Prometheus spaceship, which crashed into the alien ship.


    -Why was Weyland playing like he was dead and hiding in cryo besides plot reasons?
    He was in cryo to preserve the short time he had to live. As far as why he hid it from the crew perhaps he's an eccentric multi-quadrillionaire who likes to mess with people's heads.
    Or, if the comany and share holders believe he's dead he could be doing it for some business reasons.


    -Why does Vickers even go on the mission when it's against her best intrest in regards to taking over Weyland Industries? It's not in her best intrest if other "sharks" are on earth plotting to take over the company while she's on the mission.
    For one Weyland is not dead so the company is still his. Also, Vickers obviously has daddy issues. Her father prefers a replicant to her. Her father is dying.
    She expresses that in her opinion the mission is a joke and will not be successful therefore she believes her father is going to die on the mission.She looks at the mission as her last chance to redeem herself or win her father's love away from David.


    -Why does David infect Holloway for no reason?
    Before David infects Holloway he has a conversation with Weyland who is in cryo. When David leaves he comes upon Vickers lurking in the corridors. She askes David what Weyland said. "He said to try harder" he tells her.
    Weyland wants to find out what the "black goo" is capable of without being the guinea pig. Could it make him immortal? Could it make him morph into an alien? Could it give him the runs? He tells David to infect someone. David picks the person he likes the least of the crew.


    -Why does David put Shaw to sleep when she asks him to take the alien fetus out?
    First, putting Shaw to sleep and in cryo is the most rational actions he could take as the med-pod only works on males and they don't have the personel to do the procedure.


    -Why does the awakened Engineer attack instead of finding out what's going on?
    He has just been awakened early from a long sleep by inferior beings who he and his kind created and now want to destroy. These inferior beings have somehow found them and the rest of his beings on the ship are dead. He sees them somewhat of a threat.
    He has no idea what they know or what they're capable of. Not physically, he knows he can handle them physically. He's worried about what they know about the Juggernauts on the planet and their plan to destroy mankind.




    -These are the words that David said to the Engineer:
    this man (is) here because not-die he-desires. life_increase_wish to-him you-(can)-give he-believes.




    gli xenomorfi sono armi batteriologiche usate per ripulire da ogni forma vivente i pianeti a cui era stata prima data la vita


    -the "Deacon" is NOT a "proto-xeno". The "proto-xeno" was the one we saw in Alien, Aliens, Alien3 & Alien:R. It was an ancient prototype of the "deacon" found on a force-landed derelict juggernaut bomber that had been there for at least 1 million years (if not considerably longer).
    Original xeno = old bio-weapon. Deacon xeno = the latest bio-weapon (well at least 2,000 years old).


    -Remember, you have the ampule containers which inside contain a "yolk", the 4 (possibly 8, double stacked in the taller ones) "inner ampules" with break-off necks surrounded in a by the "egg-white"....the "black goo". These "urns" are "synthetics eggs"....
    a much more controlled system of launching the bio-weapon (using pourous/breakable-when-impacted "urns") then their fore-fathers did playing with the actual "ancient xeno eggs".


    -The ship arrives at this location in the final week of 2093, with the final moments of the film taking place on New Year's Day, 2094.
    Thus, Prometheus concludes 28 years, 5 months and 2 days before the start of Alien.
    Assuming Aliens happens in 2179 then Alien takes place 57 years earlier, in 2122
    -[...] This splendid theorising has been torpedoed by Ridley Scott saying straight-out that Prometheus takes place in the Zeta Reticuli II star system as well, however.
    Thus, the two planetoids in Prometheus and Alien - LV-223 and LV-426 - are different planetoids but they are located in the same star system. Based on the evidence above, I'd still suggest they are orbiting different gas giants.


    According to Prometheus, the Engineers built an extensive military installation on LV-223 more than two thousand years ago.
    -This facility was overrun and its population almost completely wiped out by unknown forces (but likely a bioweapon they lost control of) approximately 2,000 years before the events of Alien.


    -in Alien and Aliens, an Engineer starship of similar design to those seen in Prometheus is found on the surface of LV-426
    According to Ridley Scott, this ship originated at the LV-223 facility and was on its way somewhere else (presumably not Earth) with its cargo of facehuggers when its cargo got out of control. The pilot landed on LV-426 and was killed,

    within a couple of hundred years of the destruction of the LV-223 facility (so between 1,800 and 2,200 years before the events of Alien). The fact that the facehugger eggs could survive and remain viable for that time period is impressive.

    ancora non ho letto nulla riguardante la tempesta di silicio ma sono quasi sicuro che sia stata scatenata come sistema automatico di difesa delle ampolle da possibili forme di vita ostili agli ingegneri e ai loro segreti militari in questo caso le armi batteriologiche xenomorphe, che 9/10 secondo ogni fonte sono proprio questo, sono armi chimiche che vengono rilasciate sui pianeti precedentemente inseminati della vita (esempio la scena che apre il film) per spazzarla via (il perchè di tutto questo ancora non è stato detto ma essendo prometheus una trilogia sarà rivelato in futuro) le ipotesi sono discusse qui
    http://www.prometheus-movie.com/comm...ums/topic/7023


    Last edited by Torok; 16/09/2012 at 13:42.

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