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    Salve Compagni!
    Anke il vekkio niubbo Balasso oramai vede (se pur ankora un p? lontana) l'ambita meta del 60!

    E quindi si apre la questione TALENTI !

    Balascio ? un Pretozzo alquanto aggressivo, nn ama molto curare anke se nn si tira indietro quando c? da farlo (=amo il pvp in genere ma vorrei anke fare istanze) ... al momento al liv 54 ? dedito ai poteri Shadow :

    Shadow Talents (33 points)

    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Gives your Shadow damage spells a 10% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.


    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Increases the duration of your Shadow Word: Pain spell by 6 seconds.


    Shadow Focus - 5/5 points
    Reduces your target's chance to resist your Shadow spells by 10%.


    Improved Mind Blast - 5/5 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Mind Blast spell by 2.5 seconds.


    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Psychic Scream spell by 4 seconds.


    Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 75 damage over 3 seconds
    and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed.

    Level 28: 126 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 36: 186 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 44: 261 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 52: 330 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 60: 426 damage over 3 seconds


    Silence - 1/1 point
    Silence the target, preventing them from casting spells for 5 seconds.


    Vampiric Embrace - 1/1 point
    Afflicts your target with Shadow energy that causes all party members to be
    healed for 20% of any Shadow damage you deal for 1 minute.


    Shadow Weaving - 5/5 points
    Your Shadow damage spells have a 100% chance to cause your target to be
    vulnerable to Shadow damage. This vulnerability increases the Shadow damage
    dealt to your target by 3% and lasts 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times.


    Darkness - 5/5 points
    Increases your Shadow spell damage by 10%.


    Shadowform - 1/1 point
    Assume a Shadowform, increasing your Shadow damage by 15% and reducing Physical
    damage done to you by 15%. However, you may not cast Holy spells while in this
    form.

    Bene!

    Ma ADESSO ke metto (ankora ho tutti i talenti l? nn utilizzati! circa 12&#33 ?


    Ma soprattutto, x una eventuale Respeccata ke consigli avete ?

    Io ho qualke idea ke mi sono fatto senza esperienza diretta (x es la shadow form so ke nn la user? mai + dopo il 60).

    Ecco un template fatto solo in "teoria" :

    Class: Priest
    Level: 60


    Discipline Talents (13 points)


    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.


    Martyrdom - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6
    seconds after being the victim of a critical strike. The Focused Casting effect
    prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.


    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15
    seconds.


    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude and Prayer of Fortitude
    spells by 30%.


    Focused Casting - 1/1 point
    While active, you no longer lose casting time from taking damage. Lasts 8
    seconds.



    Holy Talents (17 points)


    Improved Renew - 5/5 points
    Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 15%.


    Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
    Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.


    Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
    Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.


    Improved Flash Heal - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting
    Flash Heal.



    Shadow Talents (21 points)


    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Gives your Shadow damage spells a 10% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.


    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Increases the duration of your Shadow Word: Pain spell by 6 seconds.


    Shadow Focus - 5/5 points
    Reduces your target's chance to resist your Shadow spells by 10%.


    Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    Assault the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing 75 damage over 3 seconds
    and slowing the target to 50% of their movement speed.

    Level 28: 126 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 36: 186 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 44: 261 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 52: 330 damage over 3 seconds
    Level 60: 426 damage over 3 seconds


    Improved Mind Blast - 5/5 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Mind Blast spell by 2.5 seconds.


    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    Reduces the cooldown of your Psychic Scream spell by 4 seconds.


    Silence - 1/1 point
    Silence the target, preventing them from casting spells for 5 seconds.


    Le Mie DOMANDE e DUBBI sono:

    Meglio "Holy Specialization - 5/5 points" o "Subtlety - 5/5 points" ?

    "Martyrdom - 2/2 points" funziona a dovere ?

    Meglio "Focused Casting - 1/1 point" o "Vampiric Embrace - 1/1 point" ?

    Esistono Template "perfetti" ?

    Accetto di tutto critike feroci, consigli, offese ... x favore x? rispondetemi e + kiaramente ke potete! :blush:

    Grazie anticipatamente a tutti coloro ke mi risponderanno!


    Ah ... FREMEN RULEZ!

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    Si narra che i preti possano curare tranquillamente senza problemi fino alle istanze di altissimo livello.

    Per fare PVP, si narra che ci siano parecchi template utili.

    Cominciamo.

    SHADOWFORM (18/0/33)

    * Discipline Talents (18 points)

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Improved Inner Fire - 3/3 points

    * Holy Talents (0 points)

    * Shadow Talents (33 points)

    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Shadow Focus - 5/5 points
    Improved Mind Blast - 5/5 points
    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    Mind Flay - 1/1 points
    Silence - 1/1 points
    Vampiric Embrace - 1/1 points
    Shadow Weaving - 5/5 points
    Darkness - 5/5 points
    Shadowform - 1/1 points

    VARIANTE:
    Togli 1 punto da Improved Mind Blast e 2 da Shadow Focus, aggiungi 3 punti a Shadow Reach

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    INNER FOCUS (21/0/30)

    * Discipline Talents (21 points)

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Improved Inner Fire - 3/3 points
    Improved Mana Burn - 2/2 points
    Inner Focus - 1/1 point

    * Holy Talents (0 points)

    * Shadow Talents (30 points)

    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Shadow Focus - 3/5 points
    Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    Improved Mind Blast - 4/5 points
    Shadow Reach - 3/3 points
    Silence - 1/1 point
    Shadow Weaving - 5/5 points
    Darkness - 4/5 points

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    TRI-SPEC 21/9/21

    * Discipline Talents (21 points)

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Improved Inner Fire - 3/3 points
    Improved Mana Burn - 2/2 points
    Inner Focus - 1/1 point

    * Holy Talents (9 points)

    Improved Renew - 5/5 points
    Spiritual Healing - 4/5 points

    * Shadow Talents (21 points)

    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Shadow Focus - 3/5 points
    Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    Improved Mind Blast - 4/5 points
    Shadow Reach - 3/3 points
    Silence - 1/1 point

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    TRI-SPEC (21/17/13)

    * Discipline Talents (21 points)

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Improved Inner Fire - 3/3 points
    Improved Mana Burn - 2/2 points
    Inner Focus - 1/1 point

    * Holy Talents (17 points)

    Improved Renew - 5/5 points
    Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
    Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
    Improved Flash Heal - 2/2 points

    * Shadow Talents (13 points)

    Blackout - 5/5 points
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    Shadow Focus - 3/5 points
    Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points

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    Ma comunque:

    > Meglio "Holy Specialization - 5/5 points" o "Subtlety - 5/5 points" ?

    La prima.
    Subtlety in teoria (se il gruppo funziona bene) non serve.

    > "Martyrdom - 2/2 points" funziona a dovere ?

    Si, ma molto spesso non ti accorgi che si ? attivato ^^;;
    Quando entra un critical a qualcuno difficilmente noti l'iconcina lampeggiante di fianco alla mappa :P

    > Meglio "Focused Casting - 1/1 point" o "Vampiric Embrace - 1/1 point" ?

    Tra i due, ? meglio "Vampiric Embrace".

    Il fatto ? che Foc. Cast (ed il proc di Martyrdom, che sono la stessa cosa) NON ti fa interrompere lo spell dai danni subiti MA un kick di un ladro o un pummel di un guerriero o (eccolo qui) un Earth Shock di un monotasto ti bloccano il cast lo stesso.

    Da notare che Foc. Casting e Martyrdom fanno la stessa cosa. E' vero, sulla carta Foc. Casting dura 8 secondi ed il proc di Martyrdom 6, ma ricorda che dopo aver CASTATO Foc. Casting, ci sono i 2 secondi di cooldown globale, che ne riducono la durata PRATICA a 6 secondi.

    > Esistono Template "perfetti" ?

    No

    Quelli che ti ho postato sono quelli che ho trovato in giro pi? di frequente, basandomi sul fatto che non ami tanto curare ma preferisci fare PVP.

    Ovviamente ce ne sono MILLE MILA, ma quelli che ti ho postato li ritengo immensamente validi.

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    Beh che dire io sono lvl 52 ed inizio anch'io a pensare al respec finale. Inutile dire che sono anch'io specato shadow per ovvi motivi di grinding ^_^.

    Innanzitutto non sono d'accordo sul fatto che un prete non shadow sia propenso solo alle cure...

    questo ? una bozza di template che vorrei provare.


    Discipline Talents (33 points)


    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.


    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.


    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.


    Martyrdom - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike. The Focused Casting effect prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.


    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.


    Improved Mana Burn - 2/2 points
    Reduces the casting time of your Mana Burn spell by ?.


    Mental Strength - 5/5 points
    Increases your maximum Mana by 10%.


    Improved Inner Fire - 3/3 points
    Increases the effects of your Inner Fire spell by 45%.


    Inner Focus - 1/1 point
    When activated, reduces the Mana cost of your next spell by 100% and increases its critical effect chance by 25% if it is capable of a critical effect.


    Force of Will - 5/5 points
    Increases your spell damage by 5% and the critical strike chance of your offensive spells by 5%.




    Holy Talents (18 points)


    Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
    Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.


    Improved Renew - 5/5 points
    Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 15%.


    Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
    Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.


    Holy Fire - 1/1 point
    Consumes the enemy in flames that cause 95 to 119 Fire damage and an additional 35 Fire damage over 10 seconds.


    Improved Flash Heal - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Flash Heal.


    Shadow Talents (0 points)


    None


    Specato rigorosamente Discipline

    al contrario di argenta l'iconcina lampeggiante del focused casting io non solo la vedo, ma la uso con ottimi profitti ...secondo me i punti in martyrdom e focused casting sono ben spesi..

    oppure di seguito:



    Discipline Talents (20 points)

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.

    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.

    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.

    Martyrdom - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6 seconds after being the victim of a critical strike. The Focused Casting effect prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.

    Focused Casting - 1/1 point
    While active, you no longer lose casting time from taking damage. Lasts 8 seconds.

    Mental Agility - 5/5 points
    Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.

    Improved Mana Burn - 2/2 points
    Reduces the casting time of your Mana Burn spell by ?.



    Holy Talents (31 points)

    Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
    Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.

    Improved Renew - 1/5 point
    Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 3%.

    Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
    Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.

    Inspiration - 5/5 points
    Increases your target's armor value from items by 25% for 15 seconds after getting a critical effect from your Flash Heal, Heal, Greater Heal, or Prayer of Healing spell.

    Improved Healing - 5/5 points
    Reduces the Mana cost of your Lesser Heal, Heal, and Greater Heal spells by 15%.

    Improved Flash Heal - 2/2 points
    Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Flash Heal.

    Improved Prayer of Healing - 2/2 points
    Reduces the Mana cost of your Prayer of Healing spell by 20%.

    Master Healer - 5/5 points
    Reduces the casting time of your Heal and Greater Heal spells by 0.5 seconds.

    Holy Nova - 1/1 point
    Causes an explosion of holy light around the caster, causing 80 to 88 Holy damage to all targets within 10 yards. The effect also temporarily reduces your threat level against nearby targets for 5 seconds.



    Shadow Talents (0 points)

    Qui siamo su un classico pretuncolo Holy, un ottimo template anche questo...


    Per quanto riguara i punti shadow sicuramente la linea di pensiero corrente ? quanto meno spenderne 21 per arrivare all'utilissimo silence, ma io non sono granch? d'accordo....a parte il fatto che il silence ? principalmente usato (IMHO) per il polymorph del mago , cosa che si pu? risolvere con un bel trinket, e cmq basta una frazione di secondo in pi? nell'usarlo e ti va tutto in malora...per non considerare il cooldown abbastanza lunghetto.

    Io sono propenso a queste bozze di template, oltre alle notevoli capacit? di cura , non dimentichiamo l'ottimo mana burn bestia nera di qualsiasi caster che non sia prete...




    "Il Destino mischia le carte, l'uomo gioca la partita" V.Hugo

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    Ovviamente sono + confuso di prima ... anke xk? ? un bel Dilemma scegliere dove pendere ...
    Tuttavia noto ke ...

    Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.

    Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 seconds.

    Improved Power Word: Fortitude - 2/2 points
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude spell by 30%.

    ... compaiono nei vostri consigli e anke nei vari template ke ho visto in giro Io ...
    Per il resto sono molto indeciso ...

    Cmq vi ringrazio moltissimo ... valuter? cn attenzione ...

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    Aggiungo un paio di cose: ho provato sui server Test la seguente Build per PVP di gruppo, e devo dire che funziona BENISSIMO, sopratutto visto che hanno corretto il bug di "Focused Casting"

    Una Tri-Spec molto carina

    Discipline Talents (11 points)

    # Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    # Martyrdom - 2/2 points
    # Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    # Focused Casting - 1/1 point

    Holy Talents (17 points)

    # Holy Specialization - 5/5 points
    # Spiritual Healing - 5/5 points
    # Inspiration - 5/5 points
    # Improved Flash Heal - 2/2 points

    Shadow Talents (23 points)

    # Blackout - 5/5 points
    # Shadow Focus - 5/5 points
    # Improved Shadow Word: Pain - 2/2 points
    # Improved Mind Blast - 4/5 points
    # Mind Flay - 1/1 point
    # Improved Psychic Scream - 2/2 points
    # Shadow Reach - 3/3 points
    # Silence - 1/1 point

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    Originally posted by Argenta@Aug 22 2005, 16:54

    Discipline Talents (11 points)

    # Unbreakable Will - 5/5 points
    # Martyrdom - 2/2 points
    # Improved Power Word: Shield - 3/3 points
    # Focused Casting - 1/1 point

    In effetti non ? affatto male anche se non spendere i talenti sul Improved Power Word Fortitude forse mi sembra un po limitante.

    Forse si potrebbe provare a rimanere sui classici 21 punti in shadow e prendere Improved PWF.


    "Il Destino mischia le carte, l'uomo gioca la partita" V.Hugo

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